Hosted by Ben Byford, The Machine Ethics Podcast brings together interviews with academics, authors, business leaders, designers and engineers on the subject of autonomous algorithms, artificial intelligence, machine learning, and technology's impact on society. We chat with Lofred Madzou about AI as a journey to understand ourselves through smart machines, scepticism about wholesale job loss, understanding that "you are not your data", dissecting the European proposal for AI regulation, examples of types of AI activities under regulation, the spirit of the regulation – human rights-centric, risk-based approaches, infringement exposition and compliance… Lofred Madzou is a Project Lead for AI at the World Economic Forum, where he oversees global and multistakeholder AI policy projects. He is also a research associate at the Oxford Internet Institute where he investigates various methods to audit AI systems. Before joining the Forum, he was a policy officer at the French Digital Council, where he advised the French Government on technology policy. Most notably, he has co-written chapter five of the French AI National Strategy, entitled "What Ethics for AI?".